The Lambo calculator is imperative to the success of Wonderland, without it the platform will fail.
I think you’re being sarcastic?
That calculator seems like it created groups – those who expected APY to take them to four Lambos in 300 days and panic sold yesterday, or over-confident investors already picking out their Lambos who leveraged themselves into a death spiral. The VC-type investments should be enough to attract new investors.
Clear communication is necessary. I no longer know what Wonderland is. I’d image most responsible people have enough plans and commitments in a day to not have enough disposable hours to spend down the rabbit hole, sifting through twitter and discord diarrhea streams. Real life exists outside the screen. Financial security should allow people to enjoy freedom from the screen. I am no longer sure how to even participate in Wonderland. I used to mint, I used to stake and I used to lose money because TIME just kept trending down. And despite that Wonderland was still predictable and felt somewhat safe and secure because it was clear what it is. Now it is not clear at all. What is app.wonderland.money for? To link to sushiswap? I honestly don’t know what to make of it. Do I just buy wMEMO and hodl? Should I just revert back to converting my librarian wage to ETH and stacking satoshis? Wonderland (fore me) was the reason to exchange CeFi for DeFi and explore the new tech first hand. Yesterday this new tech let a lot of people down and showed us that we’re nothing but a pack of cards.
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Hi,
I’ve read the thread and replies.
I agree it’s very similar to my thread “Frog Nation Eduction to prevent liquidation”
It’s so great to see the community come up with ideas and be so invested to shape this opportunity to what it could be.
Already proud to be a frog!
I feel like communication is definitely my one “complaint.” I would like for there to be more clarity and communication and definitely agree they could use a person and/or team to field questions, create guides, and get publicity going. I don’t think it would be too much of a stretch to add to the website simple instructions and “for entertainment purposes only” on the Lambo calc (I like it too, even though I know it’s not serious.) The whitepaper is definitely out of date, and I think I only know what’s going on because I just lurk in the Discord all day every day, haha.
I appreciate you bringing the topic up so clearly, and hope that Dani and Sifu take it to heart.
I agree. There was an RFC for communication strategies, but there hasn’t been any voting yet. Communication must be done clearly and in an orderly manner. People should realize that FUD costs so much money, and it’s the second time this has happened (14 dec, 17 january). If we want to be a VC, it’s essential to invest in how we communicate our value, treasury, and operations.
RFC: [RFC] Marketing strategies, Branding, Social Media - #85 by Glorpchop
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I so agree. There needs to be clear communications and somewhere to ask questions and get help. I have Wmemo and am so confused. It doesn’t look like I get any rebases. Is there something I am
Suppose to do? I thought I could just leave it alone, but I read about people claiming it?
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Connect this forum interface with the official website and fix it, turn it into an actual social network for the organisation, or something lookalike for assisting in participation in the DAO = added value
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I threw together a presentation on some of the website stuff, since there are other, better proposals about social media and PR. I’m not a website expert but I hope this starts some ideas.
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A couple of ideas (short versions, deeper explanation below):
DONTs
- Stop diluition. Average investor mindset is here for the APY and see your XXX asset increase overtime, not wMEMO. As much as I like wMEMO, you need to think about this to not hit the iceberg in front of you.
- Stop investing in the companies. Stop going for a VC model, ffs. Psychologically, this also creates new confusions around new tokens and new airdrops (it has been already too confusing to think about SPELL, sSPELL, ICE, TIME, MEMO…guys, come on).
You don’t have the expertise to pick and choose a good trading card company and a betting crypto company which is the key aspect to being an ‘above the average VC’ (see deeper explanation below)
DOs
- Start distributing the ‘juice’ of Wonderland: the returns you generate through your excellent financial strategies. You are GREAT at this. Let’s stick to it.
Longer versions of the previous points:
As much as I appreciate your team and what you have created so far I think you have made so serious wrong assumptions about the TIME/wMEMO.
Stopping dilution while it is rational, it is not understood by the ‘average’ investor in the project. And to be fair, you need to stick to your current investors’ mindset a bit longer, no matter how good the strategy is. I think people are in Wonderland because they see their TIME token increase across time. It feels ‘good’ to see your assets growing. It has been highlighted many times in comments and even during last Daniele’s AMA by some enthusiastic supporters. Personally, I don’t care and I trust you 100% on this but I am trying to play the devil’s advocate here.
You have been switching too fast to a BTC/classic model in crypto which is: you hold the asset and you check the price going up and down. That’s not the deal that put investors’ money into Wonderland. All the DAO are doing this and perform really poorly (Metaverse Pro, Olympus, Jade…and you). You are all doing the same mistake because you are honestly acting too rationally. Degens are not rational and you should know this better than anyone else.
What you have been ‘selling’ is something else and to be fair you should stick to this and SLOWLY change the ‘rhythm’. I understand what you might say: ‘well, it’s time to move on with a less speculative mindset on this investment’ but I think you’re pulling the strings too fast.
Given this investor mindset, stopping dilution I think (and I might be wrong) will cause a drop in the APY which is going to further badly impact the price.
‘Frog Nation’ is cool but let’s be clear: people are into this to make money. So let’s make us some money RIGHT NOW. It has been said that on the UST-MIM leverage on Abracadabra you make $100,000 a day. Get that money and give it back to wMEMO holders on a monthly basis. Simple concept to get through investors’ minds and it increases the confidence in the project.
I agree with Andre Cronje: stop fucking doing XXX things. DAO should have one purpose only. Do not invest in potential companies, manage the DAO like a pure market-based hedge fund/ETF. Use financial strategies, leverages, trade returns, Iron Bank, Anchor, investments in good crypto projects (eg. FTM). You are good at this, you are not experts on card business or betting companies. You are not Elon Musk or Bernard Arnault. You are Wall Street guys in the crypto spaces. There is nothing wrong with being very good at ONE thing. You are not product guys at large. You are excellent financial strategists and financial-product people. Do not try to be someone who you are not.
Final thoughts:
Do not stop dilution. Stop the VC ideas. Start distributing returns from your financial tactics (like the UST-MIM leverage on Abracadabra) or at very least, start to talk about it so the ‘average’ degen can get how you make MONEY. We are for the MONEY, not some trading cards or metaverse gaming with a failure rate of 99%.
Let’s go.
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We are moving forward with launching a YouTube channel to give existing investors, and potential investors a “one stop shop” for news and information. We have a team lead, digital content creator, and someone familiar with SEO currently. If you would like to get involved please email us at wonderlandcryptonews@gmail.com
Our hope is to show Daniele, Sifu and the Dev team the value of an organized PR and marketing arm for the clear release of news and applicable documentation relevant to that news. This will give the face of “one team one voice” and mitigate FUD in the community.
Our end game would be all information released would be vetted through this team to ensure a clear message.
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We have started a team. I am retired military and was the CEO and COO of a marketing company. We also have a content creator and onboarding someone for SEO currently. Our plan is to do a YouTube channel with beginner videos focusing on education potential and existing investors on the project. They could then learn the different ways for entry level investing and staking, and finally more advanced moves. We will have relevant links to official sites and with the support of Daniele, Sifu and the Dev team be the team that organizes news for release ensuring a clear message and supporting videos and documentation if needed. We would also keep official documentation up to date.
We are looking for team members. We currently have a a team lead, digital content creator, and onboarding an SEO manager. I am retired military and was the CEO and COO of a marketing company, and investor in the Wonderland project. The project in in desperate need of a team to manage the projects investor facing voice to ensure we are clear in our message and strive to have a well educated community that builds confidence in the project. Email me at wonderlandcryptonews@gmail.com if your interested in helping
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Happy to help, I have a background in law 
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We could use you as we move forward and get Daniele and SIfus support. It would be good to have official press releases reviewed by someone with a legal back ground
Dropped you an email with my details.
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We have a solid team started with a Team lead, digital content creator, SEO, legal, and a team of programmers for a PR and Marketing team. We are all willing to donate our time to get started but need community support as well as Dani and Sifu. We need to ensure for example things like airdrops are not announced until after the snapshot is taken and all pieces are in place to execute. It will ensure things happen as officially released
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Important to note the distinction between dilution and inflation.
The current staking/rebasing model essentially maintains the stakers % of the market cap. Whenever a dilutive mint occurred, the % of the market cap owned by each staker was diluted. That was bad.
Even with the removal of dilutive mints, rebasing continues to create new TIME. Rebasing is still inflationary to the supply of TIME. But because each staker experiences the inflation equally, it doesn’t dilute the % of the market cap they own.
Does that make sense?
It does and you are correct. We are in the process of making quick simple instructional videos to educate potential and existing investors. There is far too many people currently invested that dont get the most basic aspects such as what the difference is between Memo and wMemo. The discord is a constant stream of simple questions and confusion when new information is released. This can be avoided and we have professionals in the community I am talking to willing to donate our time to get a PR and marketing team up and running. If we can get to where the team organizes the press releases and supplies relevant videos and documentation the community would become far stronger as it would build investor confidence and less FUD.
I agree. How can I help?