So based on comments and some of the details it sounds like we want to establish leadership and maybe an entity that is liable for the DAO? Aren’t DAOs technically illegal? I mean there’s a reason Dani doesn’t want anyone with the multisig to be in the US. I’m not sure we fully understand the risks we are asking people to take on. Regulation is coming in the near future and it will most likely not be friendly to crypto before they give in and listen to what the world actually wants.
And that is why we need a Chief Legal Officer. I know of one not US based and I am sure there are plenty of others. Bottom line is it is possible to let people out who want out and continue on However to navigate what is going to be rough waters we need those with the proper skills
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Hmm this is tough. I think we are on a time bomb. Dani and his team move fast and they need to to maintain our market lead. Will we hold them back while vetting future staff? It is going to take a long time to find the right people because I honestly think 90%+ of the people who think the are qualified are definitely not. Only person I would trust to know what/who we actually need is Dani. People who really know this environment aren’t your standard C-level people. The ones that grew up in this environment and are geniuses in it are people like Dani and frankly like Sifu. Finding a version of Sifu with a sparkling reputation is going to be a pain. That goes the same for the rest of the leadership team.
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I think you might be surprised. Much of day to day operations is true no matter what field it is in. Im not saying I am the “guy for the job” but am retired military and have run tech start ups and marketing companies as a COO. Some best practices, policies and procedures can be universal. Things like clear properly reviewed press releases, new investments, and functionality not being announced before all moving parts are ready for deployment are universal. A properly managed treasury is also universal. Dani the VP and CTO would be the ones looking at and having high level meetings with potential investment groups. These are just some examples
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All great points, very logical and adult discussion.
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I think this proposal should be combined with my proposal: https://www.wonderlandforum.xyz/t/dao-discussion-establish-an-independent-feeder-fund-to-reduce-risk-and-improve-dao-management-reporting
I propose a combination of Siam Kidd and myself to manage this, fostering a partnership that focuses on all aspects of cleaning up the management of the treasury and DAO. I do not believe any one individual by themselves is the best path forward here, and for the scale of Wonderland, there are more benefits we can realize by allowing multiple thought patterns to coexist.
Thank you. I really feel there is a way out for those that want out AND a way forward for those of us that are in this in the long term.
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Other courses of action are possible but I feel we have very important short range moves that need to be made first. To pull out of our current situation we need to put people in a few key positions to stabilize the project. Once we have stabilized we will have the time to have the discussions necessary to determine the best way forward with trusted, skilled individuals which have back ground checks.
I think this is a sound proposal. There has to be more accountability if this project is going to survive. I believe in people being given a chance to redeem themselves but at this point confidence needs to be restored and Sifu must leave for that to happen. If this doesn’t happen I will have to cut my enormous losses and move on.
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Sorry to hear about your losses and understand peoples frustration. I honestly feel this is the best way forward to maximize our chances of making up those losses and potentially turning around the project for profits
Agree, this should be the way going forward so we avoid future Sifus
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agreed! This is the way forward
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Agreed. I’m still believe there is future for Wonderland since we still have a strong treasury. It needs to rebuild the reputation with a new team.
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Definitely agree with this. The roadmap is promising. A dedicated team is what’s needed to bring Dani’s vision to life.
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Agreed This needs to be run like a business to be profitable
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great how do we move this forward?
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We need help spreading the word to get people to like it and comment to show support and move it to a vote
i’m agree with the Background checks of all wonderland team,agree to Have a VP working with Dani’s vision
agree with Chief Financial Officer (replace Sifu) Chief Operating Officer,Marketing & PR Director,Chief Technology Officer,Chief Legal Officer…
Few months ago Dani came with this new project Wonderland ( his new vision of DAO ) but what is a vision without Money… a Dream!!! never forget that WE came with the Money,
no “Frogs” = no treasury
no treasury = no investment
Honestly i hate the term “frog” it can be fun for certain person and i respect them but from start to finish we are INVESTORS!!!
I invested my money into Wonderland for a better retirement and i really feel disappointed and all kind of different feeling when i see the money i invested going down 90% when some staff at Wondeland see their money going up by million.
Talking about the staff how many people work for Wonderland ( youtuber included ) , how many have a salary,how much are the salary… all these unanswered questions!!
Wonderland work as a company, and i have never seen a company without real name,identity and background.
i can not imagine that the name of the CFO of Amazon is Goofy… no his name is Brian T. Olsavsky and not Sifu or Mickael or Omar who stole several million a few years ago,changed is identity several time…
i can not imagine that the name of the CFO of Tesla is spongebob… no his name is Zach Kirkhorn and not Sifu or Mickael or Omar who stole several million a few years ago,changed is identity several time…
Another point if the price go up i’m pretty sure that i’m gonna lose all my money why? because of the whales that gonna cash out in a finger snap!! ( we need to find a solid solution for that )
sorry it was long but i’m gonna finish with a last thing.
my job as investor was simple by Avax then by Time and change it for memo and play with the lambo
but since Wmemo to today i’m sure that i didn’t invested on that!
i wish you an happy new year 
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I think so man. Defi is brand new. It’s lime 2008 for btc. Nobody though it was gonna be this big through it’s ups and downs…
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This is a well thought out presentation for some kind of actionable plan that could potentially move things in a constructive direction. Assuming Dani is not absolutely complicit in scamming all of us, which I’m still not convinced he isn’t, he needs to take drastic and immediate measures to earn back the trust of whoever is left in the community. I would like to see a plan like this followed through upon and no more half baked waffleing between “what if maybe” potential scenarios that just cause more and more convoluted confusion, which at this point appear in hindsight as though they were designed to do exactly that. Dani needs to prove to us that he can get his head on straight and LEAD with absolute accountability in a direction that at least attempts to make whole the people who have been holding all along and believed in him and his vision. Feels like this is only fully considered to be a DAO when the people at the helm are trying to escape any and all accountability of their massive fuck ups
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