No backing is not a floor price for liquidations, that entire last part is incredible wrong and just as bad an idea as a buy back with out locked staking. Why should everyone in wonderland cover the cost of other peoples bets?
Everything else seems good unless these are paid positions, Let Dani pick his own team.
and now that sifu is Gone this new treasury manager should get a real pay check, like 200k a year, not 5 million a month, wtf was that?
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Of course! Plz feel free to reach out in DM
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There may be a misunderstanding, I have never said backing is a floor. I said if we liquidate wonderland now, at best we ll get the backing, but probably less.
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This is the part that is going to make people think a buy back will happen and save them from liquidation much like the same thing that happened last time. In the white papers it said each Time was backed by a MIM, everyone thought backing price meant they could use 9’9’ to get rich and then cry scams when they got liquidated.
I acknowledge the potential misunderstanding it may create. I rephrased it.
Thanks for spotting this and contributing!
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Hi all, read all the above messages regarding Wonderland and yes, it seems to be a chaos right now. One of the ideas mentioned here is to form an investement committee. That’s a good idea, provided it consists of the right mix of people. The same goes for installing a risk committee, that should also consist of a mix of people, not just e.g., traders. On that note, having worked for central banks for almost 20 years, I think I can say that I know something about risk management. My background is in audit, tax and compliance (with the corresponding university degrees completed). Don’t immediately respond with: fuck off, you’re the enemy, not a frog. I have been active in crypto since 2015 so I am not a newbie. Anyway, I am willing to exchange views with some serious people here on how the aforementioned committees could be set up. By then, I have no problem at all sharing who I am, et cetera. I believe in full openness towards the community. What we are unfortunately sharing here at the moment is a common problem and in my opinion we can only solve the problems together.
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This is much better than the BASTION proposal.
I have one suggestion, crowd source the investigation into potential candidates by offering a bounty. In the process we will weed out dangerous players and promote the best players to the crypto community before they take up their post.
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Excellent idea! I am adding it to the wording.
If only our proposal can get viability to then work out the details further.
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I like this idea. I think it is well thought out. I agree that the current treasury value, if invested correctly, can bring value to investors.
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Generally, I think that this is a good framework to get this project moving forward. The Bastion proposal should be swiftly rejected on the basis that no performance details have been provided (including, but not limited to investment strategy, allocations, drawdowns, geometric and algorithmic mean returns casted on a month-over-month basis). We’d also need to know what size fund has been managed in the past. We should require that this performance be audited by a firm of our selection.
Regarding your proposal, my only concern is keeping Dani around. At this point, Dani has been either complicit or incompetent and should not be put in charge of a 9-figure treasury. Giving Dani the benefit of the doubt: His decision-making process is questionable at best and is not in the interests of this project.
I think that a strong component of your proposal is the fact that the fund could be managed by multiple parties, each given some amount of the treasury to grow.
Short-term yield strategies could also be employed by our treasury (investments that yield 20-30% annually through a mix of stable/blockchain incentivized coins e.g. AVAX-DAI).
This is a good start. Appreciate your effort.
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Thanks Ominous for the detailed reply.
I agree with all your proposals.
On Dani, I think a big portion of the treasury may follow him, he is the one who raised it. Also Transition wise, it s good to avoid a revolution but a smooth evolution. I think he deserves a second chance in a well structured set up that can act quickly if other mistakes are made.
Now we need:
1/ Candidates for the risk committee
2/ Candidates for the investment committee (even from the current team)
3/ Managers: I guess we can at least count Bastion as a potential candidate.
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May I also suggest appointing a communications director. One thing that became abundantly for far too few was the change in direction/framework of the organization as we shifted to revenue share model.
Expectations were set for investors with an APY system rather than revenue share model. This created a great deal of issues among the community with regards to sentiment (in a negative way). I believe with proper communication or even voting for that matter, the community can understand WHAT the protocol is doing and HOW it plans to accomplish those things (in laymen’s terms). At the end of the day, everyone wants more $ and this communicator should be familiar with social psychology to some degree (due to the community size).
Furthermore, this should be a frog…truly a frog. Their job isn’t to manage funds or make trades and migrations but speak to others like them. The community wants relate-ability and not a linked in dick swinging contest to be involved. Jon Ray is doing something similar with Jade (who actually ran a social experiment with their investors funds…smrtr) but I believe this could be a lot more effective and immersive into the actual direction of the project.
I propose the director of communications is added to this list and comes from the community.
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How are you going to work out paying out investors who buy wmemo now at a price below backing?
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Thanks for the valuable input.
The list in the proposal relates to the main governance and investment management.
There is a full team that needs to be structured and I am sure the current one has talent including IT, operations and communication.
For communication, we can hire a PR and com specialist with extensive experience in social media, fintech and/or crypto.
Indeed clear communication should be a paramount.
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Wonderland has so much potential. We have a 600M treasury to begin with and we’re not even close to the next bull market, that’s too much to wind down and give up, of course we had massive hit, but with hard work we can rebrand and grow again.
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This is a good idea. I really think that wallets buying a million dollar worth of Wmemo should have there funds automatically locked for 3 months and if they want to sell their position there should be a limit on how much they can sell.
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Guys, a message from noob investors like me. We invested because we believed we will be able to grow with this project. If we cash out, we will take cents on Dollars. I request you all experts to work together and save this project. All eyes are on Wonderland. If it falls, it will take down many DAO’s with it. The future of DAO’s depend on Wonderland. (In my opinion) Please work together and find best possible management, make sure no funny business anymore. Thank you
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I am a tiny investor with wMEMO staked. How can I vote? I want to save this project. Thank you
Yup. I agree to this.